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  1. persephone8 No, I have not. I will keep that in mind, oops please forgive the absolutely atrocious pun there, for the future if and when I find the time to get back into this research. Currently real life as collided with purposed distatctions . . . o_O , and I am becoming acqauinted with it again. :devil:
  2. persephone8 Thanks for the warm fuzzy. :D It is greatly appreciated. My apology for the long delay in replying to your post, however, I am not very active in the Alt-Info circuits since the first of the year as I am merging back into real life with new relationships, et cet, et al. I was just pasing through reading all my Zxavier Mail and found the post at the Xmsg box. Keep your good work :devil: :D
  3. Oh Hephaestus!! You presume much!! I merely asked if you have anything concrete to verify what your claim to be, that is all. I haven't the means, presently, to invovle myself in the fruitless efforts of debunking any one man's claims about his life, especially one that is more than half my age. I still have an whole archive of unsanswered questions about my past in one or more alt-life scenarios that others have alluded to me over a period of thirteen years or so. If you're a genuine time traveller, the more power to you. Please E-Mail me privately at: [email protected], that we may discuss the future and such things. :devil:
  4. Wellthen, be forwarned dear Hephaestus, as you already know from having been advised of others in participating in this thread, the skeptics found herein are most difficult to convince. :D :devil:
  5. Would the REAL John Titor please stand up?!?!? :D :eek: :devil:
  6. Oh?! What factual evidence have you to confirm this claim? :devil:
  7. Re: Shut Up Yes, so far as I know Mop would be the proper one to address such a concern, however the correct method would be in a private message, PM, to him alone. It is curious that when viewing the posts in this particular thread, neither of those you seem to be offended with / by have posted anything since my last post herein, in December. :devil:
  8. Thank you very much for your input. 馃檪 :devil:
  9. http://www.marsrevealer.com/ :devil:
  10. Dear Friend Transient, I am still musing over the dreams, etc of earlier this month. It appears evident to me that what is happening here is much different than what could be caused in that possible future time line I was viewing. All I know is that things as they are progressing would not get to that end in two years. Comments? 馃檪 :devil:
  11. commander sisko Are you from the future dear Commander? O_o :devil:
  12. http://www.bielek-debunked.com/index2.html 16 December 2003: A new section was added today. This section is titled 'Statement of Al Bielek's Producer'. A few days ago, Michael Houtzager, owner of the web site 'www.bielek.com', published his statement of happened between him and Al Bielek and he shares his thoughts on what we presented here on this web site. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Al Bielek finally debunked Dear fellow "Philadelphia Experiment" fans, you will find enclosed in these pages verifiable facts published for the first time that will conclude a long term investigation into the so called "PX" experiment but more specifically into the claims made by one Alfred Bielek. Mr. Bielek gained a degree of public recognition for the first time with his well-know testimony at the MUFON conference in 1990. At that time he stated that he was a true eyewitness and participant to the Philadelphia Experiment. The facts published here will clearly demonstrate that Mr. Bielek, as well as his companions Preston Nichols and Duncan Cameron, willfully crafted one of the biggest hoaxes to spread from the internet. According to his own records, Bielek has been on over 50 radio talk shows and a featured speaker at over 40 conferences. We will outline in the body of our presentation the following re-evaluation of Al Bielek. 路 He never participated in the PX 路 He never witnessed the PX 路 He was no where near the PX test when it occurred 路 He has changed the nature of his story many times over the years with additions, embellishments, deletions and wholesale fabrication of events 路 He has stated historical events that can be completely verified to be totally false These points are a sampling of what we will present in our report. What remains amazing is that Bielek's story was widely accepted by the media and his 'fan community' without criticism. People of all backgrounds were quick to repeat his quotes, often just borrowing them from someone else's web page, without checking the claims or presenting any critical analysis of whether they 'could' be true. The most astute observer and researcher of the PX is Marshall Barnes. He has been doing a thorough investigation of the Philadelphia Experiment since the early '90's. Barnes asked basic questions that no one else thought pertinent and with time he began to find great discrepancies with Bielek's claims. Starting from a basic dissatisfaction with Bielek's so called "facts", observing that not one claim was supported by a "hard evidence" [which means that it can be verified] Marshall began a large-scale investigation. Eventually a small number of people joined Marshall in his endeavors and the result of this long-term research is this report. Among this group of researchers were Marshall Barnes (USA), Fred Houpt (CAN) and Gerold Schelm (GER), making this investigation a real international event. Our group effort can demonstrate that the claims of Al Bielek and his companions is nothing short of very impressive media manipulation, dis-information, partially correct data mixed into fabrications and completely false statements. Where there will always be those of the opinion that Bielek's media circus is the creation of a government-guided operation, what we can say with certainty is that to some degree it has been a profitable venture for Bielek and friends. Whether they were selling hokum and malarkey never seemed to stop the curious and na脙炉ve from buying tapes and videos and attending conferences. The fact is that the one factor missing for over a decade, is a step by step de-construction of the PX-Bielek saga. We have accomplished that and we are confident that his version, his story, does not hold up to severe scrutiny. The references used for this presentation are the common transcripts of some speeches and interviews given by Al Bielek, which are still accessible on the internet. Additionally, we make reference to the content of Al Bielek's own web site, www.bielek.com, which has presented the photo material referred to in this report. Often, we use Al Bielek's own data to point out where he has either lied, mixed and matched bits and pieces of the real story or else just made up a great deal of nonsense. When we say that someone has 'lied', we are required to show evidence for the accusation. We have documentary evidence showing Bielek lying on several of the main subjects and the source is emails and official documents, which we have provided as part of the report. The facts presented on these pages were collected by Marshall Barnes, Fred Houpt and Gerold Schelm. Personal statements of the investigators can be found in the final chapter of this web site. The left hand menu will bring you to the results of this investigations. NOTE: I am only presenting some one else's material. I am voicing no personal bias in this issue at this time. Zx o_O :devil:
  13. Message: 2: UnderGroundBases- Digest Number 757 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:37:14 -0000 From: "ocenmyst" Subject: Re: Planet-X/Niburu, Marduk, Nemesis, to cause cataclysm on Earth, may be at least a thousand years off! Study the seals to be opened and the trumpets of Revelation. Then picture Rahab coming towards us. And men's hearts will fail them for fear. Myst --- In [email protected], "George \(USAF-VET\)" wrote: > Planet X or Niburu or Marduk or Nemesis > to cause cataclysm on Earth in 2003 or 2012 ? > Zeta disaster "cyber prophets" got it all wrong > and may be at least a thousand years off. > > > > Some years back there was the hype that Asteroid XF11, discovered by > astronomer Eleanor Helin and later re-discovered by astronomer Jim > Scotti, would hit the Earth on 28 October 2028. It was only after > careful analyses and recomputations that this asteroid will pass the > Earth at a distance of 600,000 miles and not hit our planet. > > Of course, the press was the first to put such hoax into the media, > blowing up the subject out of proportions, just for the thrill rather > than caring about scientific details. And now we have a similar hype > about Niburu or Nibiru, also known as Planet-X. Photo editors are very > busy in creating "evidence". > > I do not rule out the possibility that planetary disasters are covered > up, just to avoid mass hysteria. But we should be highly critical > towards any disaster prediction. > > Many names for the same thing. Well, according to hysterious > clairvoyants, in the year 2003 this planet X will be closer to Earth > than the Sun is. But rest assured : this year 2003 and the next 1200 > years won't be giving any such event of this kind. > > It seems weird, even suspicious, that comets of a size much smaller > then the Moon get discovered long before a close pass along the Sun, > whereas a presumed dwarf star 4 times the size of Earth remains 'not > officially proven to exist' even though right now this Planet-X would > pass Earth rather closely, which could cause a major cataclysm. > > So what about this mysterious Planet X or Niburu/Nibiru or Marduk or > Nemesis that is assumed to swing through the inner Solar System every > 3600 years, having caused things like the tilt of Uranus up to > upheavals on planet Earth (I don't think there was any around 1500- 1600 > BC), perhaps even the extinction of dinosaurs in earlier such > approaches, according to Zechariah Sitchin, author of the book "The > Twelfth Planet" (it should have been the tenth planet) ? Will our > planet Earth stand still in the year 2003, then tilt, to shift poles > afterwards and leave the larger part of the world population killed ? > Hoax ? Truth ? Scientifically possible ? Zetatalk.com talks say it > will. Oh please, come on. > > NASA took the scientific approach and detected this asteroid (picture > on the right) "1950AD" and calculated that this giant may get in touch > with Earth in the year 2880. That is over 875 years from now. But this > is an asteroid, not Planet-X. So what are the Zeta clairvoyants (read : > vaguevoyants) talking about ? > > > According to modern astrologers, our Sol system has 3 more planets > after Pluto, named Persephone, Hermes and Demeter, so that the Sol > system has 12 planets, each one of them representing a specific > zodiacal sign and thus a specific sector (or life department or astro > house, 12 of them in a horoscope). "Advantage" is that the Sun and the > Moon would not need to be called "planets" anymore by the astrologers. > Anyway, in astronomical terms, Planet X would be the same as > Persephone, if Planet X is indeed the next planet after Pluto. > > By the way, it would not be a bad idea to go back to basics and have > astrology and astronomy merge into one scientific unit, like in the > good old ancient times ;-) After all, things like Stonehenge and > pyramids would then make more sense too. Further back in time, > occultism and science was the same. > > In January 1981 several daily newspapers stated that Pluto's orbit > indicates that Planet X exists. The report stated that an astronomer > from the U.S. Naval Observatory told a meeting of the American > Astronomical Society that irregularities in the orbit of Pluto > indicates that the solar system contains a 10th planet. He also noted > that this came as no surprise to Zechariah Sitchin, whose book about > this planet came out three years before. > > In 1982 NASA themselves officially recognized the possibility of Planet > X, with an announcement that an object is really there - far beyond the > outermost planets. One year later in 1983 the newly launched IRAS > (Infrared Astronomical Satellite) quickly found Planet X (the 10th). > The Washington Post summary of an IRAS scientist from JPL California > reported : "A heavenly body as large as Uranus (The size being in > perfect parallel to the ancients knowledge) and part of this solar > system has been found in the direction of the constellation of Orion by > an orbiting telescope." The orbiting telescope found it right where it > was aimed at. > > A large observatory in St. Petersburg, Russia yielded significant > information. The man in charge of finding new planets admitted they > have been watching Planet X for 3 years and are worried about the > substantial damage it will do to Earth during its passage. The name > they gave for Planet X was "Raja Sun" or "Great Star." To my knowledge > there is a slight difference between a star and a planet. > > Planets in our Sol system are experiencing remarkable changes in their > overall brightness and appearance. All planets are increasing in their > overall brightness. Jupiter shows a visible tube of ionizing radiation > formed between its moon. The planets magnetic fields are becoming > stronger. The magnetic fields of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune are > strongly increasing. Their atmospheric qualities are changing, as > easily seen through conventional astronomical telescopes. For sures > there is something with the Earth atmosphere that distorts telescopic > sightings, as the Hubble Space Telescope doesn't complain about it. > Keep it simple. > > And nothing is reaching the news headlines ... Nothing is conveyed by > any government ... Because there is not anything to report. Simple. > > Nowadays, predictions about the return of Niburu in early Summer 2003 > keep on finding - and losing - their way. Those predictions could be > taken very serious. We all know how accurate ancient astronomical > calendars are, scientifically proven, but also Zeta Talkers should > learn how to read those astronomical tables. But Planet X has now > officially not been detected by astronomers. Officially, because there > has not (?) been any visual contact, contrary to aforesaid NASA report. > See visual image below that clearly shows this heavenly body, although > it is not clear which one it represents. > > So there are lots of lies going around, all denying the existence of > planet X, registered as "2001-KX76" in astronomy catalogs. Whether this > planet is inhabited by Aliens or this heavenly body is a dwarfstar is > not totally clear to me. But there is not enough scientific evidence to > the existence of Planet X. > > Sure, good reason to keep such thing top secret, to avoid (or to > generate) mass hysteria, because a planet of a size several times our > planet Earth would indeed disrupt the (mental, not physical) balance > between Earth and Sun, if indeed its distance would be about one AU > (astronomical unit, roughly the distance between Earth and Sun) in its > perihelion (closest distance) and certainly if planet X comes between > the Sun and Earth. The NASA "knows" about Earth stopping to rotate for > a couple of days and 2/3 about world's population to be completely > destroyed as seems happened thousands of years ago, according to some > unverified reports. I did not know there were written NASA reports > before the time of Moses or Abraham. > > Other sources say that Planet X its orbit will take the track between > Jupiter and Mars, near the asteroid belt, approx the same from the > Earth. So there is a bit of confusion of where exactly that planet will > move, between Sun & Earth or between Mars & Jupiter. Another confusion > is whether that planet is a planet or a dwarf star, since its mass is > 20 times Earth mass but its size is 4 times Earth size. Certain > pictures show a reddish planet, and certain reports state that this > planet is inhabited by Alien civilization. > > But regardless of what kind of heavenly body, it is scientifically > proven that solar flares, or protuberances, cause major changes on > Earth, such as in economy, climate & weather, seismic, state of mind, > and so forth. So if planet X, having a momentum comparable with solar > flares, passes Earth this close, then it is not hard to imagine that > today's changes on Earth are interluding the coming of planet X, as the > field of planetary influence (such as gravity and other forces) extends > over quite a great distance. In plain words, the world wide [censored] of all > kinds in which we are at present time could be one of the effects. It > is but the mind that is affected, not the Earth. And not by Planet- X. > > Continents are supposed to move around and so we would end up in having > Antarctica in a tropical climate, South America in a polar climate, and > India completely submerged, according to those who claim to know it > all. > > Now, how to prepare for the cataclysm of mid-2003 ? Just don't. There > won't be any ... > > On the other hand, as far as mass entities in space is concerned, there > is a big difference between gravity and magnetism. And I have the > impression that in impact computations these forces are mistakingly > taken for the same thing. In other words, the effects that we would > normally expect from Planet X passing by, may be far from dramatic, and > nothing worse than the moment a comet is passing by. Therefore the > greatest effect of such passage would be on the human mind. > > If Planet X passes Earth at a distance of 1 AU, then its effect may be > similar to the Moon at its present distance, more or less based on the > square root principle applicable to gravity and distance. To state it > plainly : Planet X will not cause any damage neither will it stop Earth > from rotating. > > Yes, through contradictions I just want to put things into perspective. > And I still wonder to what extent it has been proven that in the past > 3500 years (the orbital time of Planet X) - roughly 1500 BC - indeed a > major cataclysm has been caused by the passing of Planet X, and how > come that a polar shift similar to this expected magnitude has > apparently not occured at that time ? At least, I have not seen any > decent proof about such event. > > Sure I think that the whole cataclysm thing about planet X is a hoax, > even though quite a few governmental super solid buildings are upon > construction completion in some mountain areas, as the rumors say, but > these have nothing to do with it. By the way, some web-sites talk about > the year 2012 or 2013, in relation with Planet X, and with some ancient > calendars that don't go beyond 2012 (beginning of Aquarius). So this > could make the confusion or hoax a lot greater. > > Last but not least, Planet-X seems to have some 9 moons. And some idiot > scientists state that these moons are pulled behind the speedy Planet-X > like Superman's cape. What a nonsense ! Would planet-X then have so > much headwind in vacuum space ? If planets would encounter so much > resistance in space, then none of them would travel by now and we won't > have any seasons. Moons orbit around a planet. Period. > > It would not make sense to establish civilization on a planet that is > doomed to get destroyed every 3600 years. I guess our "Alien" ancestors > would have known better. The Zeta-Reticulians, who "told" people about > the upcoming pole-shift, do not necessarily know it all. In certain > documents they mentioned May 05, 2000, as the date of such cataclysm. > Well, nothing special has happened, and the Zeta Reticulians better > call themselves Zeta Ridiculians. If indeed ancient scientists knew > about Planet-X already 6000 years ago, then they must have seen that > planet at "close" distance. So if its orbit takes 3600 years, then only > after about 1200 years from now (-6000 + 3600 + 3600 = 1200) we may be > able to see the same as what they saw 6000 years ago (from now). > > And again, magnetism and gravity are two totally different things, > obviously mixed-up by those who claim to know it all. Gravital forces > do not only occur on one spot but on the entire planet, so there won't > be any random G-forces, and therefore any partial movement is excluded. > > So again, Zetans should go back to school and take some courses in > astronomy and should learn some physics too. > > And to underscore the Planet-X to Earth cataclysm hoax even more : The > distance between Planet Earth and Mercury & Venus is also less than one > AU. Yet Planet Earth does not cause any polar shift or tectonic > movements on Mercury & Venus, or vice versa. Not even the slightest, as > expected by the Zeta theories. The socalled Zeta enlightened > visionaries seem to have no clue about gravity and magnetism. They hear > a bit about a 10th planet, and all the rest they mock-up in their > day-dreams. > > Taking into account all of the above, and other bits of pieces of > information, in my humble opinion the Earth will not stop or slow down > or accelerate turning all of a sudden, neither will there be a sudden > polar shift, no earthquakes or upheavals or floods, nor any tectonic > movement of any kind during the entire passage of Planet-X in this year > 2003, if there is any, which is highly doubtful. Don't listen to those > disaster prophets, including ET's from Zeta & Orion, Moses, Edgar Gayce > and Nostradamus. There are better things to do. See you after 1200 > years. > > > ===== > =========================== > Mr. Jorge "George" Anthony Paniagua > 615-A Jefferson Street > Stayton, Oregon 97383-1929 > =========================== :devil:
  14. Re: Are cartoon's real? Nowthen Derek, How did you come to this conclusion? I only expressed a friendly greeting to you herein. No personal opinion for or against was registered concering the realities of animated moving characters. :) :devil:
  15. Derek and others, Where's the beef, really. The contested website and all those offereing information may be totally fraudulent. I was merely offering a possible source of factual information. What you choose to believe or not is entirely up to you. When, in another thread at TTI you have posted information that others wanted to make sport with, who was not in that crowd of hecklers? O_o
  16. Re: Are cartoon's real? Hello Derek :devil:
  17. derekpacisalive In response to your question about my visage: Have you people ever smiled in your life? Because everytime I make a joke, it's only laughed at when it's sarcasm . . . . The emoticon used is more of a trad marke than an adequate indicator of my enotional condition at the time I am posting. :) As for attempts and joking around, I may have missed something here, but I haven't seen anything really humorous as of yet . . . I could be entirely wrong . . . and then again, why in the midst of serious discussion must there be frivoulus humor inserted? Just wondering, that's all. I have no problem with your believe of your school being hounted and possibly the home of one or more trapped spirits. And again, the response you flinched at wa not made directly to or about your posts. Nuff sed? :oops: I don't know about the unicorns thread, as I haven't carefully viewed it through. Therefore, I will leave it well enough alone. :devil:
  18. The link has been broken now for over a week. I cannot truly say that the direction my life is going could possibly lead me where I would be according to that possible future time line encounter earlier this month. :devil:
  19. locomotive, For the sake of are our getting on the same wavelength before this launches, please qualifyefinition of "lucid dreaming," Thank you very much. :devil:
  20. jewstinian Which website? I don't see a url to follow to confirm your allegations. :devil:
  21. ------------------------------ Told Face to Face, Blackout was a Military Test Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:14:02 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: Joint Task Force Told Face to Face, Blackout was a Military Test ----- Original Message ----- Joint Task Force Told Face to Face, Blackout was a Military Test Oliver J. Midelson At an under publicized public comment meeting, which was publicly 'announced' by a Department of Energy news release, Michael Kane outlined his report, published at Global Free Press, stating that the August 14th blackout was part and parcel to a multi-faceted military test. The Task Force was very attentive, attempting to take notes as fast as Michael spoke. His comments can be heard in Windows Media player format (now playing). They were the last comments made to the panel. It was a snowy Friday afternoon in Manhattan and very few people showed up. Both Forbes and the Akron Beacon Journal left out Michael's comments in their "coverage" of the New York pubic comment meeting. Once again the mainstream media completely fails the public, and Global Free Press is the only publication brave enough to run the real coverage of this so-called 'public' comment meeting. How public can it be if no one reports it? The "New Media" such as GFP, FTW, INN, SGTV, and many more are proving to be our only salvation. Michael made the only interesting comments given the entire day with the exception of Carole Dortch-Wright, who spoke on behalf of New Jersey Governor James McGreevey. The NY Times, who had a reporter present at this meeting, seem to have provided no coverage in their Saturday edition. For the record, I personally saw Michael's report handed to the NY Times reporter. Hopefully they are saving it for their Sunday edition, but I won't hold my breath. Very few people showed up to the public comment meeting in Cleveland, Ohio on December 4th, prompting Rep. Dennis Kucinich and four other members of Congress to accuse the D.O.E. of failing to adequately notify the public, according to the Akron Beacon Journal The first point Michael made was that the Task Force Interim Report failed to address the possibility of Electro Magnetic Pulses causing the blackout. He noted that it is known HAARP was turned on at 4pm on August 14th, just 11 minutes before the blackout occurred. He stated the Air Force should be contacted and required to turn over all documentation pertaining to what HAARP was used for on that day. Michael detailed the aerial aerosol spray operation he witnessed the night of the blackout, as well as referencing the proximity of the Determined Promise '03 national military drills announced just one day after the blackout. He also mentioned he received a report that the Canadian border was militarized at 1pm on August 14th, just three hours before the blackout, in the Mohawk River Valley region. Why? article and audio here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/120803blackout.html ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Joint Task Force Told Face to Face, Blackout was a Military Test Oliver J. Midelson At an under publicized public comment meeting, which was publicly 'announced' by a Department of Energy news release, Michael Kane outlined his report, published at Global Free Press, stating that the August 14th blackout was part and parcel to a multi-faceted military test. The Task Force was very attentive, attempting to take notes as fast as Michael spoke. His comments can be heard in Windows Media player format (now playing). They were the last comments made to the panel. It was a snowy Friday afternoon in Manhattan and very few people showed up. Both Forbes and the Akron Beacon Journal left out Michael's comments in their "coverage" of the New York pubic comment meeting. Once again the mainstream media completely fails the public, and Global Free Press is the only publication brave enough to run the real coverage of this so-called 'public' comment meeting. How public can it be if no one reports it? The "New Media" such as GFP, FTW, INN, SGTV, and many more are proving to be our only salvation. Michael made the only interesting comments given the entire day with the exception of Carole Dortch-Wright, who spoke on behalf of New Jersey Governor James McGreevey. The NY Times, who had a reporter present at this meeting, seem to have provided no coverage in their Saturday edition. For the record, I personally saw Michael's report handed to the NY Times reporter. Hopefully they are saving it for their Sunday edition, but I won't hold my breath. Very few people showed up to the public comment meeting in Cleveland, Ohio on December 4th, prompting Rep. Dennis Kucinich and four other members of Congress to accuse the D.O.E. of failing to adequately notify the public, according to the Akron Beacon Journal The first point Michael made was that the Task Force Interim Report failed to address the possibility of Electro Magnetic Pulses causing the blackout. He noted that it is known HAARP was turned on at 4pm on August 14th, just 11 minutes before the blackout occurred. He stated the Air Force should be contacted and required to turn over all documentation pertaining to what HAARP was used for on that day. Michael detailed the aerial aerosol spray operation he witnessed the night of the blackout, as well as referencing the proximity of the Determined Promise '03 national military drills announced just one day after the blackout. He also mentioned he received a report that the Canadian border was militarized at 1pm on August 14th, just three hours before the blackout, in the Mohawk River Valley region. Why? Dr. Nawal Kamel appeared to be pleased to hear Mr. Kane's comments, as he was the only person who appealed to the Task Force as a citizen void of any special interest. In addition to this, Senior Policy Advisor James Glotfelty was nodding his head up and down as Michael began to speak of PD-16. Wayne Madsen has revealed National Security Presidential Directive 16 (PD-16) gave the president authority to wage cyber-warfare against other countries, including bringing down their power grids. Michael pointed out we do not know if any elements of PD-16 pertain to North America. He continued by referencing Tommy Franks' recent comments in Cigar Aficionado. General Franks' stated if another terrorist attack occurs in America, the Constitution would be scrapped for a military government. Visibly upset by this outrageous statement, Michael put down his prepared statement and made a much-needed comparison to the current 'independent' commission to investigate 9-11. He noted how the victims family members were terribly disappointed with the 9-11 Commission, and that it is clear the commission will not withstand historical scrutiny. He ended by warning this Task Force the only way for them to avoid the same destiny is to address the questions outlined in his report. He then offered to hand his report to any one interested in reviewing it. At this point, Alison Silverstein, co-chair of the Electric System Working Group (ESWG) threw both her hands out, prompting Michael to personally hand his report to all nine Task Force members. I asked Michael what he thought of the Task Force's response: "I wanted to appeal to their hearts as well as their minds," said Michael in the Park Central Hotel Lobby, "芒鈧 think I may have touched one or two hearts in there today." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Joint Task Force Told Face to Face, Blackout was a Military Test Dr. Nawal Kamel appeared to be pleased to hear Mr. Kane's comments, as he was the only person who appealed to the Task Force as a citizen void of any special interest. In addition to this, Senior Policy Advisor James Glotfelty was nodding his head up and down as Michael began to speak of PD-16. Wayne Madsen has revealed National Security Presidential Directive 16 (PD-16) gave the president authority to wage cyber-warfare against other countries, including bringing down their power grids. Michael pointed out we do not know if any elements of PD-16 pertain to North America. He continued by referencing Tommy Franks' recent comments in Cigar Aficionado. General Franks' stated if another terrorist attack occurs in America, the Constitution would be scrapped for a military government. Visibly upset by this outrageous statement, Michael put down his prepared statement and made a much-needed comparison to the current 'independent' commission to investigate 9-11. He noted how the victims family members were terribly disappointed with the 9-11 Commission, and that it is clear the commission will not withstand historical scrutiny. He ended by warning this Task Force the only way for them to avoid the same destiny is to address the questions outlined in his report. He then offered to hand his report to any one interested in reviewing it. At this point, Alison Silverstein, co-chair of the Electric System Working Group (ESWG) threw both her hands out, prompting Michael to personally hand his report to all nine Task Force members. I asked Michael what he thought of the Task Force's response: "I wanted to appeal to their hearts as well as their minds," said Michael in the Park Central Hotel Lobby, ".I think I may have touched one or two hearts in there today." o_O :devil:
  22. derekpacisalive Yes sir, I do, most assuredly. :devil:
  23. :( derekpacisalive There is a major misunderstanding here, it is quite clear. I was not chiding with you about your post, rather to James' remark, which we both have already cleared up in previous posts. Your contributions concerning the trapped spirits in the school house were indeed quite on topic and related to what we are wanting to glean in this discussion. My personal apology to you for the misunderstanding of what I previously stated and to whom my remarks had been directed. :cry: :devil:
  24. RE: Scan me, go ahead scan me! TTA, I have been personally facinated with "Mr. Goodwin" even since he came aboard last year and all but threatened me with his clairvoyance. I haven't really seen anything in any of his posts that are meant to add anythng to our mutual understanding. I see a clear contradiction in that he claims to be a pyschic, and also made readical mentions of Judeo-Christian scriptural history. He can't have both, that is an absolute impossibility. I would gladly discuss this more if there is any real and genuine interest and such a discussion can be held here without mud slinging and needless displays of temperment, and if it sounds like I am against David, not really, but he hasn't answered my repeated challenges to his alusions of exposing something in me yet. :devil:
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