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Einstein, if you are unwilling to consider that Black holes might exist, even for a brief second, I suggest you stop reading this thread

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Cain Ismene said:
Einstein, if you are unwilling to consider that Black holes might exist, even for a brief second, I suggest you stop reading this thread

Not even for a brief second do they exist. But you are welcome to leave the realm of fact based science and use all the fairy dust and leprechaun magic you want to spin your tale.

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Then I guess I'm gonna be thinking happy thoughts while I fly off to Neverland. What was it again? Second star to the right, and straight on till morning?

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Cain Ismene said:
Then I guess I'm gonna be thinking happy thoughts while I fly off to Neverland. What was it again? Second star to the right, and straight on till morning?

Based on the content you've posted in this thread, one would think you were already posting from Neverland.

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I won't, thank you Paula.

In relativity, when you travel faster through space, time slows down. At the speed of light, as far as we know, time stops completely. When you travel faster than the speed of light, time runs backwards.

So, to travel back in time, you need to travel faster than the speed of light. That's if you want to figure out how to create infinite energy.

The way most physicists today agree that you can travel back in time is to create time-like curves because its exponentially easier to make those, than to create infinite amounts of energy. To do that you have to somehow isolate time as a dimension, and force it to curve back on itself.

The analogy to doing this is to think of a piece of string and then taking two point on that string and making a loop in it.

We know that there is an object in nature that isolates time, to a good extent. (Einstein, this is going to be the point where you'll want to stop reading.) The event horizon of any black hole, by its very nature, flips space-time and turns it into time-space because, once you cross the event horizon of a black hole, you are traveling faster than the speed of light. Now that's great and all, because now you are going to travel through time more than space. However, since time is still going to move forward, because you haven't created time-like curves, you are kinda screwed.

Once you're inside the even horizon, think of time like the 3-dimensional imagery NASA uses to give you a good idea of how gravity works in relation to space. Now what you have to do, is drag time into a loop to create that time-like curve, and since gravity is the only thing that transcends time and space (Thank you Interstellar), you have to use the black hole in some way to form the time-like curve.

That's where Roy Kerr comes in. While he wasn't looking for a way to travel back in time, he did discover the rotating black hole. Wherein the singularity becomes a ring due to centrifugal forces.

So, completely by accident, Roy Kerr discovered how to create time-like curves before anyone had even thought of them.

The answer has been public knowledge, lost in pieces around the internet. I'm simply the guy who put the puzzle together.

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This post is for thread harmony control. The master of posting would want me to do this. Since our topic here is time travel and you, the possible, time traveler, alien, time criminal on the run and so on, would want to know how you can travel both in time and differing places within the universe, then it's probably accomplished this way.

If you look at a probable black hole, like a big beach ball and you can also do this with a brown dwarf, or any planet for that matter, as a construction made out of layers, put together in similar fashion to a thick, "let's say big city phone book", you can start to get the idea that the area surrounding the super density of a black hole is multi-layered.

The deeper you go, say in your space ship to enter into any layer of pages, is affected by the angle that your spaceship skims those layers and to what depth. The singularity, which is told by Astrophysicist Stephen Hawking, via Marcia Bartsuiack's book, is what you don't desire,.. to fly a perpendicular angle to, or straight into the black hole.This is where the atomic density is predicted to be the thickest.

If your spacecraft is magnetically compensated, it more than likely will be able to enter what the refer to as the gravity veneer layers surrounding that black hole.If you also have a map, at what entry point you must enter, to go to what place in the universe, then you can pretty much go to any place and time that you wish.

There are two other methods of time travel and this one is a ventured guess, to where a flying saucer starts to fly towards a smaller moon, then projects a gravity wave, which interacts with the existing gravity of that moon, then this vehicle can also dial the time that it wants to go into.

The last method and I thought that I would mention this, is via established photonic controlled pressure.This method is in its infancy on this world, by may have been expressed as !, An accident by some kids who built a badly executed version of a Steven Gibbs (time window portal), this was supposedly in Los Angles California, to where the machine had malfunction and or hurt or killed the kids trying to use it.

2.The second method has been mentioned by Attorney Andrew Basaggio, in his tellings of a time matter transfer machine, that he had seen via connected work association with his then father.This machine is like an expansion of the Gibbs machine, but was built under (ESTIMATED) secret contract, so I will just mention the method, but not divulge what I think is the gravy sauce.

All of these methods are now in current use, by my telling here, is for you the guest and entertaining you with theory provoking thought is what we're after here.

*This may be off topic, but I am not socially rude to partners here at Curious Cosmos.I said thank you to a member here, as it was the right thing to do. One issue that I've got to instruct you the visitor here to, is that time travel dealing posting boards, by their sometimes natures, can be very bizarre places to be.

This is mainly because one does not know, due to the subject matter, who or what is on the other end of one's PC connection, or whether the person you're talking to, is a time traveler that may be stuck in this time. Maybe all the want, is to get home?

For me, here, I watch those manners and am anymore, nice to the people that I communicate with. You may personally feel with your ego, that you don't have to be nice. But as fate sometimes dictates, the shoe ends up on the other foot and the situation seems to be, that you're the one who is in trouble. So for me, I try to be curt in the conversation and flavor to reign on the pleasant side and from time to time, show a little gratitude.

This is up to you how you may act and conduct yourself here.But for me just getting an teensy weensy bit of just how vast and lonely this universe can be, I try to keep it within the good Jill or Good Joe range of how I conduct myself. Like I said, your own rudeness can come back to haunt you. Thanks

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The aspect that I had to think about later are these points of interests.

If you can find the entry access frequency to the area of time, that you want to go to, you can dial that in and then match affinities of what your estimating and then in time flight, engineer that stop point. Of course if you've traveled there before, then this is only a rough matter of finding that certain frequency, to be able to travel to that point in time.

2.Photonic light pressure, can be shaped into a bolate, or a sphere, in order for that light sphere, to penetrate the existing time space frequency, of your point of departure. Actually there is a lot more that can be accomplished with light pressure, as photons react with a force, but are really not a practical.

3.On the black hole, it is to be able to manufacture only a token of a presence of a black hole, not the entire shape of a true black hole. If you can build a machine to where you can propagate only a rough proximity of a black hole, then you can double space the dynamic of two black holes./This gives you your Kerr similarity, or the axiom of a non-certain locus, between two black holes. The only thing is, is that during the formulation of this machine, you must find a low strength non-cutting give-off signature, such as something like a radar signature, to estimate what your black hole radius effect would be.

If you do not mange to do this, then the hot radii of the twin black holes, will cut through any matter, including the operator, is the radii are not adjusted to an operational distance, with certainty.

Note that this process was estimated within the analytical range, of the said John Titor time displacement unit. A large divot from the ground was said to be taken each time, the said Titor machine was operated.

4.Both light, sound frequencies along with magnetic strength can all pervade through the barrier which localizes us to this time.

5.There is talk of portable time travel units that can be worn, however these reports are not substantiated for private public use. This may be a violation of what is termed as a time signature, to where the time more or less owns the organism. There was an instance where again and this time scientist had made a Stephen Gibbs-like time window, attempting to enter into the age of large wholly mammals, however because this was a time lens window, the super-cold from the ice age, permeated into the control room, instantly freezing the scientist involved, at 150 degrees Fahrenheit ferenhite below zero. Not a good deal.

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So... I'm confused Creedo... are you refuting my claim and the science I described... or trying to provide examples of other ways it could be done

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Cain Ismene said:
So... I'm confused Creedo... are you refuting my claim and the science I described... or trying to provide examples of other ways it could be done

I am speaking for a modified version of the time travel core here. There are people, entities that use time travel. They are fully sanctioned and so good at what they do, that they are not a problem, "usually" and almost never noticed. You can chalk these concerns up to something similar to a ships hull inspection, as based in time travel, to where it just has to be done.

So there is a sub-core of people beneath the existence of these, that are just time traveler affiniados. Some of them, get through, while others have certain ideas, that they probably should not, or are more privately based to where they're almost semi-pro in their aims.

This is where many time travel posting board obtain their audiences, so when I speak, I manage to multi-audience speak.

In the action of eletro-mechanical transferred dynamics from a black hole, I believe this past extension as based in demonstration, had been an energy curve, this apparatus as based as a o rotating cylinder, from the Dr. Ronald Mallet time travel expert, as energy needed to produce within a transference range, from a black hole.

The past consensus and I guess this was then fear talking attempted prevention, was that the power required to time travel was an infinite amount of energy.Everyone went, "Oh wow'????!! we won't peruse that. But then along came John Titor, which was part fictional and because of the peril of mirror happening effigy production, {noted in time travel simularities], also became real.

Whoever had thought up how the C-204 worked, knew exactly how to build a time machine.So this one factor de-elevates the 204 from fiction and places this machine into the area of probability.And this is so, as one is forming and inversed spaced time captured bubble, within a set of simulated Kerr singularities.This is a double folded contrivance, to here in a reported news factuality, a similar vehicle was actually being reported as cutting into the earth and taking divots of earth, but NOT leaving any ground tracks.

So this might have been an aerial vehicle or some sort. This was by news complaints from a wheat rancher, reported in mid Washington State.

So getting back to the electro-mechanical math, this is one tippler electromagnetic device, which runs off of an inverted DC current out of a battery or other dynamic energy current supply, to where a Kerr device, generates a primary point, that is collumnaited to spread a sphere, and then to that countenance, another tippler device, spreads a second in action non-specific sphere device, so between the two spheres, one has achieved a non-specific locality, which then by control on the C-204, can be modulated and you have forward and backward abilities to time travel.

*But be aware here, that this was said to be a post catastrophe device and similar to what one would refer to as the Ford Model T of time travel devices. You had to take along a bottle of oxygen in order to operate this kind of time machine.

How they did this,"in theory of course", is the engineers provided a sparked rate of simulation, as a set frequency of veracity to that Kerr non-specific locality charge. In other words, operates like a car's spark plug, you don't need this non-locality issue on solid all of this time. This appearance is spaced as a frequency rate, however be assured, both of your Kerrs in unity appear at the same time providing the operator, with the ability to time travel as they are now within a special exclusion zone.

You don't need an entire locker Titanic style of mounds and mounds of coal, to fire your boilers, or your Kerr simulation as being true steady hot, all of the time. Hot has a double meaning there, meaning 1. turned on and 2."Lord help you if you touch it", hot enough to cut through an eight inch steel I beam.

Link to Titor-mobile John Titor - Wikipedia

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Again Creedo... are you refuting me... or supporting me? None of that has anything to do with what I described other than the fact that it has to do with time travel. I don't use a Tippler device, I don't use a Kerr device, whatever those are, I designed my own device.

I named it "Hail Mary." It is specifically designed to create one Kerr black hole of minimum mass, Planck Mass, where the ring singularity has a radius of 1 meter, and the angular momentum of the ring singularity is the speed of light. Because of the chosen values, I found, by running the math myself, that the ring singularity becomes naked in some places, allowing light and matter to pass through the event horizon unscathed. Which is why I can use a Kerr black hole, because I can safely approach it while it does all the things it needs to do to create a wormhole back in time.

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Where did you get your Fairy dust? Or did you get a Leprechaun to help you by stealing his pot of gold?

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No I'm not, it's just that you're theoretically based and I deal in practical applications, sometimes. I said this.

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So getting back to the electro-mechanical math, this is one tippler electromagnetic device, which runs off of an inverted DC current out of a battery or other dynamic energy current supply, to where a Kerr device, generates a primary point, that is calumniated to spread a sphere, and then to that countenance, another tippler device, spreads a second in action non-specific sphere device, so between the two spheres, one has achieved a non-specific locality, which then by control on the C-204, can be modulated and you have forward and backward abilities to time travel.

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I know how to practically apply the theory. That's why I am making this claim. I wouldn't be here if I hadn't already designed the device myself

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Cain Ismene said:
Paula asked for the science, and that's what I gave. Only half of the puzzle. I do know how to put the science to work

All you have given us so far is the imaginary science taught to us by the educational community. Do you honestly believe you can assemble a time machine from fiction?

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Paula asked for the science, and that's what I gave. Only half of the puzzle. I do know how to put the science to work

You've checked mated yourself, I can say nothing.

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Cain Ismene said:

I named it "Hail Mary." It is specifically designed to create one Kerr black hole of minimum mass, Planck Mass, where the ring singularity has a radius of 1 meter, and the angular momentum of the ring singularity is the speed of light. Because of the chosen values, I found, by running the math myself, that the ring singularity becomes naked in some places, allowing light and matter to pass through the event horizon unscathed. Which is why I can use a Kerr black hole, because I can safely approach it while it does all the things it needs to do to create a wormhole back in time.

Restated for examination evaluation for those who are looking at time machines only. SAMPLE } I named it "Hail Mary." It is specifically designed to create one Kerr black hole of minimum mass, Planck Mass, where the ring singularity has a radius of 1 meter, and the angular momentum of the ring singularity is the speed of light. Because of the chosen values, I found, by running the math myself, that the ring singularity becomes naked in some places, allowing light and matter to pass through the event horizon unscathed. Which is why I can use a Kerr black hole, because I can safely approach it while it does all the things it needs to do to create a wormhole back in time. )

Creedo Edits meaning here, then if I am correct, then this would be, a device which produces a black hole, which would have to be approximalty five foot in height and then the user would walk into that envelope. AS A QUESTION. Because no other apparatus if offered. So because of the new fair play rule, involving time travel history, then this is a probable device, that may or may not have been constructed. I do not know how anyone could enter the hot event horizon, but this is more or less what I'm gathering?

*Me myself, I would use one the mentioned Basiago picture frame time travel devices, or a Steven Gibbs variant of that.

Thank you for you posting, Cain

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You're on the right track Creedo. Hail Mary does indeed create a schwarzchild black hole, and then adds angular momentum to the schwarzchild black hole to turn it into a Kerr black hole.

 

One key fact about Kerr black holes is that they have two event horizons. The inner event horizon and outer event horizon have sizes determined by the angular momentum, and radius of the ring singularity. By plugging in different variables into the equations that determine the size of each event horizon, you can find variables that make the event horizons cancel each other out. Running 1 meter radius, and angular momentum equal to the speed of light, you'll find that the two event horizons will equal each other, where Cos(Theta)^2=1. This means that at that value of Theta, the event horizons will negate each other, making the ring singularity naked in some places. These places are where you can walk through the event horizons unscathed.

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Cain Ismene said:
Also, I've check mated myself? What does that even mean?

Apparently you've lost this game of silliness you are playing with Creedo. Creedo has always been the Grand Master.

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Apparently you've lost this game of silliness you are playing with Creedo. Creedo has always been the Grand Master.

You get a ((hug)) today, stinky. Thanks so much. Back atacha.

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Cain Ismene said:
You're on the right track Creedo. Hail Mary does indeed create a schwarzchild black hole, and then adds angular momentum to the schwarzchild black hole to turn it into a Kerr black hole.

One key fact about Kerr black holes is that they have two event horizons. The inner event horizon and outer event horizon have sizes determined by the angular momentum, and radius of the ring singularity. By plugging in different variables into the equations that determine the size of each event horizon, you can find variables that make the event horizons cancel each other out. Running 1 meter radius, and angular momentum equal to the speed of light, you'll find that the two event horizons will equal each other, where Cos(Theta)^2=1. This means that at that value of Theta, the event horizons will negate each other, making the ring singularity naked in some places. These places are where you can walk through the event horizons unscathed.

Thank you, well spoken and clear. So would something like this be in use and if so, then what are the advantages?

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Cain Ismene said:
You're on the right track Creedo. Hail Mary does indeed create a schwarzchild black hole, and then adds angular momentum to the schwarzchild black hole to turn it into a Kerr black hole.

 

One key fact about Kerr black holes is that they have two event horizons. The inner event horizon and outer event horizon have sizes determined by the angular momentum, and radius of the ring singularity. By plugging in different variables into the equations that determine the size of each event horizon, you can find variables that make the event horizons cancel each other out. Running 1 meter radius, and angular momentum equal to the speed of light, you'll find that the two event horizons will equal each other, where Cos(Theta)^2=1. This means that at that value of Theta, the event horizons will negate each other, making the ring singularity naked in some places. These places are where you can walk through the event horizons unscathed.

On para-history, this would be a starter, a tippler generating device of any manufacture and stability feedback through circuitry.

So to manufacture the double kerr, this would have to be a suspended double black hole, maybe magnetically or as again, by an ignition-like system, which locates the kerrs, per-station at a one one thousandths of a second per-as-desired locality.

*Said one one thosanth, due to the need of time for circuitry feedback interplay.This is all boards, computer operated or not.

So this might be expressed as a non-high gravity contrivance, anywhere from five, to twenty feet in height, with that weak spot as you say, opened as a walk through junction.

The same idea was put into the script of Spider-Man vs. Dr. Octavious, the miniature fusion sun.

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creedo299 said:
Actually he did, Paula.

Apologies. I was referring to Einstein the forum user, not Einstein the famous scientist.

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