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Been watching a couple of things on tv. And came up with an idea of a piece the theory of physcial time travel. 

 

 

When time travelers travel through time they might be getting lost in space. Based on the idea that the wormhole can only go take a person from exact spot to exact spot. But if you travel from July of this year to January of 4 years ago,  the earth would be in total different location while it revolves around the sun. 

 

 

Also the tilt of earth slightly changes the exact x,y,z position of the universe too. Unless you take a completely encompased machine like the one from the TIme Machine. Than I guess the gravity on earth would keep the transporter close to the earth by gravity.

 

 

Any thought?

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Hello Vman!

 

 

Lucky for you, this has been discussed here before. Check this out:

 

 

Interestingly when you travel in time you must compensate for the orbit of the Earth since the time machine doesn't move you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.

 

 

Unfortunately it was also discovered that anyone going forward in time from my 2036 hit a brick wall in the year 2564. Everyone who has ever been there has reported that nothing exists when the machine is turned off you find yourself surrounded by blackness and silence.Now most time travelers are trying to find out where the line went bad by going into the past creating a new universe and preceeding forward to see if the same thing results in 2564. It appears the line went bad around the year 2000. I am here now in this time to test a few theories of mine before going forward.

 

 

Any ideas on who wrote this? If you said "The most beloved time traveler around, the one and only: Titor, John Titor" you got it right!

 

 

Here's the post where @pamela transcripts his first faxes to Art Bell

 

 

What about the next one? I doubt you find out who wrote this:

 

 

this problem is actually the most difficult part of time travel. Although some of your assumptions about matter displacement are a bit off, the problem is real. Inside the displacement unit are a series of very sensitive clocks and gravity sensors. This system is called the VGL (variable gravity lock). In simple terms, before the unit “leaves” a world line, it takes a base reading of the local gravity and adjusts the Tipler sinusoid to “lock” into that position. Although the tmporal physics of this statment are wrong, in effect, it holds you to the “Earth”.

 

 

Here's the link for you to check with your own eyes.

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EEK didn't want to be associated with that story but thanks for info.  

 

 

Maybe the GPS they are building on the Big Bang Theory is the one in his story. Lol.

 

 

Well here is cool video of earth rotation.

 

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This is very clever. Finally someone is accounting for the Sun orbiting in the Orion Arm around the center Milky Way galaxy black "hole" as the Earth orbits the Sun. The Sun's movement is not linear. It is elliptical as is the Earth's. The Sun's orbit only appears linear because it takes 230 million years to orbit the black "hole" just once.

 

 

If it actually mattered, a time traveller would have to account for the position wobble of the Earth around the Sun as the Sun does it's orbit. 

 

 

Luckily, it does not matter to a time traveller if he or she secures his or her gravitational position within a gravity well. He or she would essentially be anchored to the bottom of the ocean of time as the time travel machine ship rocked in the waves of time.

 

 

Let's say our time traveller is from World-Line Zero and Time-Line Zero 2036.

 

 

The time traveller wants to go to World-Line-One and Time-Line One 1999.

 

 

No problem. The time traveller folds World-Time-Zero to World-Time-One and secures himself and the lines with something we will call a Push-Pin Gravity Lock. Since he is moving in time and space at the same rate as the Sun and Earth(because he is pinned to it), he does not go flying off into outer space.

 

 

If you are watching Audrey Hepburn on a Roman Holiday, you are basically time travelling to back then. But it isn't the real past. It is a copy of it.

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Time travel   Hmmmm   It's so much fun to time travel   The things I've seen and done and know   Years before they are to happen   I even attended a future Justin Bieber concert in 2012   Thats happening in 2017  I remember being somewhere in the center front first five row seats    I walked in with these 3 girls that envited me   Wow it was so awesome.......But I'm always so weirded out though by the after affects...... You better be very well grounded in reality   "To The Most Extreme As Possible!!!" ....... "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ???????????? Because You will Begine To Question The World Around You ???????????? 

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Time travel   Hmmmm   It's so much fun to time travel   The things I've seen and done and know   Years before they are to happen   I even attended a future Justin Bieber concert in 2012   Thats happening in 2017  I remember being somewhere in the center front first five row seats    I walked in with these 3 girls that envited me   Wow it was so awesome.......But I'm always so weirded out though by the after affects...... You better be very well grounded in reality   "To The Most Extreme As Possible!!!" ....... "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ???????????? Because You will Begine To Question The World Around You ???????????? 

 

 

@PaulaJedi This is what I'm talking about. I KNEW IT! Time travelers will use their machines to go to concerts. Although this one mentioned Justin Bieber...

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I think beyond the science aspect, the psychological aspect is the second hardest.

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One thing related to time travel that is often overlooked is that it may be much easier to send a signal back in time on the physical wires that compose the internet than to send a person back like in Terminator.  Consider that the same wires that connect all our computers today were the same ones that connected them yesterday so in theory it should be possible to use a temporal modulator at the input to the wires that would cause the output to occur in the past.  Maybe JT didn't have a time traveling corvette (or maybe he did, that also is theoretically possible, but much more complicated) but he did have a temporal modulator that connected his 2036 chatroom to your 2000-ish chatrooms.  South Park featured a technology similar to this in season 10: the Crank Prank Time Phone.

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First, got watch that South Park episode first.

 

 

Second, not sure 100 percent on how Internet fiber optics work. But I wonder how fast the signing would have to go. But also the light would be (heavy), due to fact that I assume bytes sent through light, still carry mass. But even if it were possible I see messages could only go into the future not the past.

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There's lots of ways around this.  For instance, the fiber optic cable that acts a wave guide for zero mass, positive energy photons, could also act as a wave guide for massless, negative energy tachyons that "sink" into the past while still being confined within the wave guide and then when the tachyon gets to the intended recipient it condenses in the present by pulling some positive free energy from somewhere.  Just spit balling ideas here, but that part about the same wires connecting all the boxes today, yesterday, and tomorrow is definitely not speculative.

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