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So John Titor was a hoax.

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It was on the boards years ago. 

Some thought it was a group of three.

Wasnt that common knowledge about the IP's?

Or maybe you havent looked that hard. 

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13 hours ago, Mayhem said:

It was on the boards years ago. 

Some thought it was a group of three.

Wasnt that common knowledge about the IP's?

Or maybe you havent looked that hard. 

As I recall, MOP deleted all roads that might have revealed JT's IP information to anyone.   He also deleted JT's registration data that could have been seen by administrators /moderators.   So, no, I don't believe it was common knowledge that JT's IP led to Celebration High School.   

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As I recall, Cosmo spilled the beans and admitted the IP lead after taking ownership of the site.

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As we’ve said often, whether you believe or not, an IP leading to a high school is not sufficient evidence to call it a hoax. It just means that some posts originated from the high school. He could have had someone post from there.  Who knows. 

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On 8/17/2019 at 10:03 PM, Kanigo2 said:

2 Why did you choose not to respond to Cosmo statement about Titors IP being traced to Celebration High School?

I personally had never heard it mentioned out of MOP, or anybody else.

 

2 hours ago, KerrTexas said:

As I recall, MOP deleted all roads that might have revealed JT's IP information to anyone.   He also deleted JT's registration data that could have been seen by administrators /moderators.   So, no, I don't believe it was common knowledge that JT's IP led to Celebration High School.   

 

34 minutes ago, Einstein said:

As I recall, Cosmo spilled the beans and admitted the IP lead after taking ownership of the site.

Hi everyone,

When Titor was posting, TTI was running on an old version of Ultimate Bulletin Board:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010422203520/http://www.xone.net/tti/board/ubbhtml/Forum1/HTML/000433.html

Somewhere along the line, those original threads got corrupted/lost. Whether that was caused by the software acting up or Mop's server just eating itself, I can't say. Remember that Titor's first thread broke after it hit 11 pages and that the server itself seemed to have consistent issues (especially near the end of Mop's ownership).

I do know that Mop didn't purposely delete any of that information. As you've seen with TTI/Curious Cosmos over the years, converting and updating sometimes causes data loss or corruption. That's just how it goes with personal websites sometimes, and we're talking about very early forum software. Back then, most free/afforable forum scripts were pretty rickety.

By the time I came around, all that remained of the original threads were:

1: Darby's own copies he'd saved to his personal Dropbox
2: An export Mop gave me of the corrupted content (basically just a text file with a lot of encoded character garbage that needed cleaning up)
3: Archive.org's copy of the site

I used all three of those as references to reconstruct Titor's threads. However, IP addresses weren't part of the archived content because viewing that was a function of the original software pulling that info from the database on the fly. There was never a way to recover any of that, even before we moved to the xenForo software in 2012 or when I took over in late 2014.

While I was messing with that stuff and getting everything migrated to my own server, I asked Mop about the IP address out of curiosity. He told me that at the time, he'd looked it up and it ended up tracing back to Celebration High School. He didn't have the original IP address and didn't share the method he used to look the IP up. He only had that one bit of information to share.

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Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, Cosmo said:
20 hours ago, KerrTexas said:

As I recall, MOP deleted all roads that might have revealed JT's IP information to anyone.   He also deleted JT's registration data that could have been seen by administrators /moderators.   So, no, I don't believe it was common knowledge that JT's IP led to Celebration High School.   

 

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I do know that Mop didn't purposely delete any of that information.

Right, I was incorrect with my statement about MOP deleting anything from the forum.  

I should have specified that it was the registration information that was not able to moderators.  Goes with what I wrote awhile back that we ( RainmanTime, Paula and myself ) did not have any additional information available that anyone else might of had regarding JT   

I do believe MOP did post somewhere, forget which thread, that he did catch one post in which the post wasn't masked.  And where that post was, have no idea.   

 

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In all honesty that falls under the very definition of hearsay Cosmo.

 

BUT AND A VERY LARGE BUT....

 

MOPs old software DID SHOW THE IP OF EVERY POSTER, if everyone recalls.

if that was an upgrade after the fact of JT posting(I think it was) then we fall back to......hearsay.

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You can always GREP through the text files and see if any of the header info(or dates) pop up.

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I'm truly not as fascinated with the entire TITOR story line than I was with the science behind it all.

if it wasn’t for RMT and Darby I never would have ever been able to wrap my mind about it.

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