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Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine

 

 

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

 

 

Abstract

 

 

This paper presents a fully independent security study of a Diebold AccuVote-TS voting machine, including its hardware and software. We obtained the machine from a private party. Analysis of the machine, in light of real election procedures, shows that it is vulnerable to extremely serious attacks. For example, an attacker who gets physical access to a machine or its removable memory card for as little as one minute could install malicious code; malicious code on a machine could steal votes undetectably, modifying all records, logs, and counters to be consistent with the fraudulent vote count it creates. An attacker could also create malicious code that spreads automatically and silently from machine to machine during normal election activities — a voting-machine virus. We have constructed working demonstrations of these attacks in our lab. Mitigating these threats will require changes to the voting machine's hardware and software and the adoption of more rigorous election procedures.

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Diebold Source Code Disks Mailed to Maryland Dem

 

 

Diebold Source Code Disks Mailed to Maryland Democrat

 

 

http://www.betanews.com/article/Diebold_Source_Code_Disks_Mailed_to_Maryland_Democrat/1161618740

 

 

By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews

 

 

October 23, 2006, 12:03 PM

 

 

The Baltimore Sun is reporting that a former delegate in Maryland's state legislature, who is also both a well-known local philanthropist and critic of the state's election system, received an anonymously mailed package appearing to contain original source code diskettes used by Diebold Election Systems for machines used in that state's election in 2004.

 

 

Will the hooks for hacking be exposed?

 

 

Time will tell...

 

 

TheCigMan

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Chicago voter info vulnerable to hackers

 

 

Chicago voter info vulnerable to hackers

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061024/ap_on_el_ge/voter_records_hackers

 

 

MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Writer

 

 

Tue Oct 24, 7:28 AM ET

 

 

CHICAGO - The city is investigating a security glitch in its elections Web site that hackers could have used to swipe Social Security numbers and the personal information of about 1.3 million voters, officials said.

 

 

It wasn't immediately clear if anyone actually stole or misused any of the information, Chicago Board of Elections spokesman Tom Leach said.

 

 

A malevolent hacker could have tampered with voter registration data, such as inactivating certain voters' registration or changing their polling places in the online database, as well as accessed Social Security numbers, names, birth dates and addresses, the group said.

 

 

A slippery slope on are we :)

 

 

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Potential problems loom in election voting

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061024/pl_nm/usa_politics_voting_dc_3

 

 

Potential problems loom in election voting

 

 

By Randall Mikkelsen

 

 

2 hours, 25 minutes ago

 

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Long lines and long counts threaten to mar next month's U.S. congressional elections as millions of Americans put new voting machines and rules to the test, election officials and experts say.

 

 

The result could be delays in knowing whether Democrats capture one or both houses of the U.S. Congress, or whether President George W. Bush's Republicans keep control.

 

 

"In close elections, it may be days and weeks before a winner is known in a particular race," said Paul DeGregorio, chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, created to oversee a 2002 election law overhaul.

 

 

I predict the Replubicans will win many races that pundits believed was lost. The mysterious wins will lead to many court cases delaying the outcome by months.

 

 

TheCigMan

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W. TO COCKY DEMS: STOP 'MEASURING THE DRAPES'?

 

 

W. TO COCKY DEMS: STOP 'MEASURING THE DRAPES'

 

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10252006/news/nationalnews/w__to_cocky_dems__stop_measuring_the_drapes_nationalnews_ian_bishop.htm

 

 

By IAN BISHOP

 

 

FIRED UP: President Bush, at a GOP fund-raiser in Florida yesterday, stepped up his blasts at the Democrats over taxes.October 25, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - President Bush said yesterday that overconfident Democrats who are already "measuring the drapes" for their move into power on Capitol Hill will have the rug pulled out from under them on Election Day.

 

 

"The Democrats have made a lot of predictions. Matter of fact, I think they may be measuring the drapes," Bush said yesterday to laughs at a Sarasota, Fla., fund-raiser for GOP House hopeful Vern Buchanan.

 

 

"If their electoral predictions are as reliable as their economic predictions, Nov. 7th is going to be a good day for the Republicans."

 

 

The president added, "One of the reasons that the Democrats will lose on Election Day: Because they want to raise your taxes. No, I know they don't want to tell it that plainly, but that's what they're going to do."

 

 

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What does the President know? As he did in 2000? How will the Republicans win and stop the tide of discontent? Or will they cheat?

 

 

Is the black box voting hack in the works? Will it be a repeat of 2000?

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: W. TO COCKY DEMS: STOP 'MEASURING THE DRAPES'?

 

 

Electronic machines raise concern in US vote

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usvoteballoting

 

 

by Virginie Montet

 

 

Wed Oct 25, 10:02 PM ET

 

 

WASHINGTON (AFP) - New electronic voting machines to be used in the upcoming US legislative polls are raising concerns after several blunders that have revived memories of Florida's 2000 presidential election debacle.

 

 

"Anything is possible," warned Kimball Brace, head of the political consulting firm US Election Data Services.

 

 

"We've got more than a third of the nation voting on something new this year and history has shown that the first time somebody uses a new piece of voting equipment, that's the time that they are going to have problems."

 

 

Many US states tossed out their antiquated voting systems after the "hanging chads" confusion of the 2000 presidential election in Florida that spurred Congress to ban the use of punchcard ballots and prompted many states to adopt electronic voting.

 

 

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The hanging chad mess and supreme court vote will look like a walk in the park compared to the 2006 black box voting disaster that will come in Nov.....

 

 

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Perhaps not what Ciggy was thinking....?

 

 

Voting machine firm has potential ties to Hugo Chavez?

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/29/vote.machine.probe.ap/index.html

 

 

There are people all over the world who would like to manipulate the USA. Just because some are paranoid about people WITHIN our government, does not mean you should trust, absolve, or hold-harmless those outside our country who have declared their evil intent. :)

 

 

RMT

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Re: Perhaps not what Ciggy was thinking....?

 

 

RMT,

 

 

"Just because some are paranoid about people WITHIN our government"

 

 

Paranoid Republicans? :) I don't have you convinced I'm 'government' like Creedo... :)

 

 

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/shows/2006/10/30/AM200610308.html

 

 

A U.S. voting machine manufacturer has confirmed it's being investigated for alleged ties to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. But it requested the federal investigation to clear its name, Janet Babin reports.

 

 

Sequoia was one of the leading voting machine manufacturers in the U.S. before it was purchased by Smartmatic last year.

 

 

Smartmatic is owned by three Venezuelans, and there are allegations that shares in the company were previously held by the Venezuelan government. Some claim that during Venezuela's last election, Smartmatic failed to cross check paper ballots with electronic ones.

 

 

In the U.S., more than a dozen states will use Sequoia machines in this month's midterm elections.

 

 

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So far no ties to Chavez... RMT... Nice Try :) The only 'crime' so far is that the company is owned by three Venezuelans

 

 

Not that I'm crazy about foreign ownership of voting machines...

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

So far no ties to Chavez... RMT... Nice Try :) The only 'crime' so far is that the company is owned by three Venezuelans

 

What do you mean "nice try", Ciggy? Doesn't it all ultimately boil down to which "conspiracy" you believe? There is probably an "adequate lack of proof" for believing any one conspiracy over another. So who's lack of proof do you believe the most? :)

Again, just an observation, but it would seem you always tend to view "the evil within" and never "the evil without". Wha'sup wif dat? :)

 

 

And why aren't tags & emoticons working anymore? :confused: :(

 

 

RMT

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

RMT,

 

 

Again, just an observation, but it would seem you always tend to view "the evil within" and never "the evil without". Wha'sup wif dat? :)

 

 

Maybe there is alot of 'evil' within the United States and forces trying to destroy it.

 

 

The 'evil without' Mmmm Well we know communism is not really a concern anymore... The European Union mmm don't think they want to attack us... Radical fundementalism is a problem though... But ask Darby that was a CIA operation that blew up in our face...

 

 

Ciggy? Doesn't it all ultimately boil down to which "conspiracy" you believe? There is probably an "adequate lack of proof" for believing any one conspiracy over another. So who's lack of proof do you believe the most? :)

 

 

Conspiracy against Conspiracy Theorists... That started with the JFK assassination... Anyone thinking about conspiracies is a 'nut'... Just not true... There is a difference between those who 'worry' based on evidence & facts and those who have 'unrational' fears not based on reality...

 

 

Frankly, Little League is a conspiracy... groups or teams playing to defeat all the other teams..

 

 

Not an 'evil' conspiracy but a group conspiring against other groups. Conspiracies are everywhere... It's a fact.

 

 

And the reason I defended the Ven. company is that I hear the Republican spin masters are starting with Democrat | Chavez conspiracy angle. Which the facts have not shown themselves to prove it.

 

 

And foreign ownership of voting machine companies should be banned.

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

And the reason I defended the Ven. company is that I hear the Republican spin masters are starting with Democrat | Chavez conspiracy angle. Which the facts have not shown themselves to prove it.

 

And science is always where Ciggy seems to trip-up... but that is to be expected as it is not really his strong suit.

The problem with Conspiracy Theories like the ones you sling so readily is they don't PROVE ANYTHING. And in fact, if the question is "who do you believe? Is this company linked to Venezuelan president Chavez or not?" YOU have a much, much, MUCH larger problem Cig, because you are in effect making a claim you have "proven" a negative (that the company has NO ties to Chavez). All it would take is one little fact to surface and you're belief would be proven wrong.

 

 

Don't you think the time-honored process of proving something IS true, rather than trying to prove it is NOT true, should be upheld? Even in your conspiracy-laden world? :)

 

 

RMT

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

RMT,

 

 

The problem with Conspiracy Theories like the ones you sling so readily is they don't PROVE ANYTHING.

 

 

That's why they are called theories RMT :)

 

 

YOU have a much, much, MUCH larger problem Cig, because you are in effect making a claim you have "proven" a negative (that the company has NO ties to Chavez). All it would take is one little fact to surface and you're belief would be proven wrong.

 

 

I don't have a problem...lol You do... obviously... I said no links to Chavez have been presented yet.

 

 

Don't you think the time-honored process of proving something IS true, rather than trying to prove it is NOT true, should be upheld? Even in your conspiracy-laden world? :)

 

 

What twisted logic are you pushing now... Most if not everything I post has evidence and/or link to articles that should present "questions" about a conspiracy.

 

 

If you and the Cabal of Qabballah don't like my posts... Tough...

 

 

We tire of your Qabballah, pseudo physics and star-trek device talk

 

 

So RMT.. Let me get this straight... Everything I post has no link or support of others....

 

 

It justs magically appears in the world? Come on... get serious...

 

 

You and DARBY can 'invent' Qabballah physics posting back and forth and everyhing in the world magically appears and there is no problem.

 

 

RMT you and friends are just bullies who harass and belittle based on pseudo-intellectual beliefs..

 

 

Thats how I see it... :)

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

RMT you and friends are just bullies who harass and belittle based on pseudo-intellectual beliefs..

 

Nice. However, you fail to notice that the bullying typically begins AFTER the other party has initiated hostilities.... such as this example right here. Now I don't need to stoop to your level to explain what you really are...

Cigman, you are what is most commonly called a "sensationalist". You are terribly good at finding "sources" that will do the "sky is falling" song and dance so that you can push your point. The problem with a "sensationalist" is they lack depth to REALLY examine the intricate details of a phenomenon. Usually only the people with such patience are those we call "engineers". ;)

 

 

The REALITY is that paper balloting had its "issues" which could result in "unfairness", but being the sensationalist you are you do not call attention to those "horrors" which actually DID result in incorrect ballot tallies in the past. Instead, you "gloom and doom" the new technology. I'll bet you were right up there "gloom and doooming" a national phone network early last century because it would certainly be a means for the globalist NWO to "keep track of us".

 

 

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1552054-1,00.html

 

 

In reality, this is a new technology, and yes it will have its "integration problems". But have you ever tought to perform a detailed analysis of voting problems from the past and compare them to voting problems from this election? I suggest that it might be a better use of your grey matter than playing Chicken Little.

 

We tire of your Qabballah, pseudo physics and star-trek device talk

 

WE???? So now you have your own little cabal, do you? Just what kind of sympathizers are you bankrolling down in that super-secret bunker of yours? And why the need for secrecy? Obviously, it looks like YOU are in more of a position to engineer conspiracies that you warn others about.

 

 

Whaddya know... the perfect operational cover! :)

 

 

RMT

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

RMT,

 

 

"AFTER the other party has initiated hostilities.... such as this example right here."

 

 

You have been harassing me since I've been here. You are "full of it". And Darby was the one start hostilities with pop pyschology analysis.

 

 

You even changed your signature to mock mine a week ago before this started.

 

 

And you have been mocking Creedo for weeks. True, Creedo has a strange way of writing and opens himself up to such criticism. But why the need for such 'smart guy' like you to waste you time to emulate him.

 

 

You are what is called "Reality Challenged". Your world is your belief. Not your actions or the world around you.

 

 

"You are terribly good at finding "sources" that will do the "sky is falling" song and dance so that you can push your point."

 

 

They are news articles RMT. Read a newspaper. Yes, I'm 'diabolically reading newspapers' for my 'evil end's Are you serious? Who elected you moderator of this board or free speech.

 

 

Cigman, you are what is most commonly called a "sensationalist".

 

 

Well the 'character' of the Cigman is to call attention to 'information' but I guess that is fair enough. You like a said are self-righteous pseudo intellectual loafer reading boards all day 'for me' instead of working... 'Engineer' is pushing it RMT don't you think? lol :)

 

 

"Instead, you "gloom and doom" the new technology."

 

 

Many suspect not just me that electronic voting machines without paper trails are very dangerous. Especially as America heads towards Fascist environment with no habeas corpus and posse comitatus. I'll find the questionable elections using this technology and post them.

 

 

Just what kind of sympathizers are you bankrolling down in that super-secret bunker of yours? And why the need for secrecy?

 

 

RMT, Are you serious? Have you lost your mind as the 'righteous republican engineer'? I've told who I was... The IP should tell you i'm at a LIBRARY.

 

 

IF you don't like me, RMT. TOO BAD. I don't like you either.

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

IF you don't like me, RMT. TOO BAD. I don't like you either

 

This certainly highlights the difference between us, CigMan. I've often said I don't like your message, but never have I said I don't like YOU. You see, some people have the ability to separate message from messenger. I can appreciate the role of an antagonist who helps me make a point without hating the person playing the antagonist.

Freedom is a wonderful thing... Just as you are free to poke fun at me and pass judgments on me, so I am free to respond to you... whether you like it or not. And in that vein, how about you go a little easy on passing judgments against me when you have NO POSSIBLE IDEA what I do at my desk during and in-between posts here. For all your Conspiracy Theories about the government and the "Military Industrial Complex" I am quite sure you have no idea how people like myself have contributed to the safety, stability and protection of our country through our efforts. In fact, TODAY there are pilots evaluating my flight control laws in a USAF simulator. And in between posting here I was able to make several simulation runs to analyze a problem they reported, make some changes to address it, and update the configuration they are flying to see the improved performance. ALL FROM MY DESK and ALL while being able to read and post here as I think and analyze.

 

 

Quite frankly, with your view on things I am totally shocked that you even deign to use the Internet at all... being that it was begun as ARPANet which came out of DARPA, and knowing your opinion on them. I'd just assume that anything that came out of DARPA you would be suspicious of. Do you use GPS too? :)

 

 

RMT

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HACKING DEMOCRACY-HBO Documentary on Tonight

 

 

HACKING DEMOCRACY

 

 

An HBO Documentary Film

 

 

9 pm Thursday

 

 

"One person could be responsible for changing tens of thousands of votes, maybe even hundreds of thousands, across the country."

 

 

Hacking Democracy exposes gaping holes in the security of America's electronic voting system, Thursday at 9 pm.

 

 

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Watch and Be Enlightened! Just a friendly reminder from...

 

 

TheCigMan

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Re: Squelching rumors of Chavez ties

 

 

"For all your Conspiracy Theories about the government and the "Military Industrial Complex""

 

 

I'm only following the advice of one of our greatest presidents, Dwight D. Eisenhower, who told Americans to watch the Military Industrial Complex. It is every Americans duty to question their government.

 

 

I'm a Democrat. True. More Independent Minded. The 2 party system seems not be working for Americans. But your concern is 'partisan politics' disguised as 'patroitic concern'. Believe me if the President was a Clinton I do the same thing. NAFTA was the worst offensive against American commerce signed by Clinton.

 

 

"And in that vein, how about you go a little easy on passing judgments against me when you have NO POSSIBLE IDEA what I do at my desk during and in-between posts here."

 

 

You mock and mimic and belittle all those here you don't deem worthy and then ask for mercy. They say you can tell the 'character' of someone by the way the treat the people around them. I believe you to be 'schoolyard bully'. And like all bullies. They stop when confronted by someone who is not afraid them. But your pathological and probably won't :)

 

 

"Quite frankly, with your view on things I am totally shocked that you even deign to use the Internet at all... being that it was begun as ARPANet which came out of DARPA, and knowing your opinion on them. I'd just assume that anything that came out of DARPA you would be suspicious of."

 

 

As I told you in the past, I published a Robotics website with a great domain vistor log. Where darpa and the rest of the super secrets used to visit. Enjoyed developing new technology to block them just for fun :) I am quite an engineer and programmer RMT :)

 

 

Quite Frankly, I know that every phone, especially cell phones, and the internet are not private communications :)

 

 

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Re: Voting Problems Appear Early - USAToday.com

 

 

Voting machine problems bedevil at least three states

 

 

Updated 11/7/2006 10:59 AM ET

 

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-07-election-main_x.htm

 

 

By Douglas Stanglin, USA TODAY

 

 

Election machine glitches caused delays and jangled nerves in at least three states today as voters began turning out for midterm elections that could set the tone for the last two years of President Bush's term in office.

 

 

Up for grabs are all 435 House seats, 33 Senate seats and governorships in 36 states as well as ballot initiatives in some states on such topics as gay marriage and stem-cell research.

 

 

Voting was delayed in dozens of precincts in Indiana and Ohio, while in Florida some election officials had little choice but to turn to paper ballots instead.

 

 

"We got five machines — one of them's got to work," said Willette Scullank, a troubleshooter from the Cuyahoga County, Ohio, elections board.

 

 

Election officials in Delaware County, Ind., planned to seek a court order to extend voting after an apparent computer error prevented voters from casting ballots in 75 precincts. Delaware County Clerk Karen Wenger said the cards that activate the machines were programmed incorrectly.

 

 

"We are working with precincts one-by-one over the telephone to get the problem fixed," Wenger said.

 

 

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Problems in Ohio and Florida? What a surprise! :)

 

 

Sounds more like voter supression in Democratic poll locations within Republican Districts.

 

 

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Re: Voting Problems Appear Early - USAToday.com

 

 

Now that I have done my civic duty and voted, I felt it was a good time to finally call CigMan on his obvious partisan wrangling, and his distinct "one-sided" reporting... against the Republicans.

 

 

Ciggy, if you want to talk about the potential for "voter fraud", how come you never bring up some of the most egregious "holes" that have been favored by your Democratic friends? Why do you never speak about the TRUTH of so-called "motor voter bills"? Are you willing to face the truth of these mechanisms that make it easier to register to vote than it is to withdraw money from your bank account? These bills, passed in MANY states, supported by Democrats (who stand to benefit from people with minimal educations, who can't figure out how to properly register to vote), and derided by Republicans because it....wait for it... ALLOWS A GREAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO VOTE TO BECOME REGISTERED!

 

 

Your partisanship is so overt, I would think it would be pretty much impossible for you to deny it. But then again, knowing you as I do, I am sure you will. As with most Democrats, your tactics are all about demonizing the Republicans rather than they are about solving problems and actually getting something done! Don't you realize that this was what lead to your party losing control of Congress in the first place? All your party could do is trash the Republicans and their ideas, and they seem to think that is all that is needed to win. And we see this same tactic in force for this election. Has ANYONE seen or heard ANY Democratic candidate who ACTUALLY PROPOSED A SOLID PLAN FOR IRAQ? I have heard NONE. All I have heard is bashing Bush and his policies in Iraq. It is fine (and part of the American Way) to express dissent against current policies and actions... but someone who wants change, and a different way, must then go further. They must then propose what THEY would do differently. I have heard none of this from the Democratic candidates.

 

 

I know the Republican party is not perfect. There are good people and bad people in ALL organizations. That is statistically the truth. But I would appreciate it if you would stop ignoring that there are also good people AND BAD PEOPLE in the Democratic party... and that some of your party's ideologies are no better (and in some cases WORSE) for our Republic than those of the Republican party.

 

 

RMT

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Re: Voting Problems Appear Early - USAToday.com

 

 

RMT,

 

 

Again you are mistaken that I care what you think... :)

 

 

But as for "Why do you never speak about the TRUTH of so-called "motor voter bills"? ALLOWS A GREAT MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO VOTE TO BECOME REGISTERED!"

 

 

Frankly, I am not familar with these bills... Please provide a link so I may analyze them... But if someone is a citizen and over 18 that makes them qualified to vote.

 

 

Just because you don't like Democrats registering people to vote doesn't make it wrong...

 

 

As for Iraq, I believe many democrats have stated a slow withdrawl from Iraq as their plan.

 

 

You may not like their plan. But its a 'plan' nonetheless. I think Murtha and Reid others have stated these beliefs.

 

 

What the Bush Administration, The Project for the New American Century. The Oil Companies and the NEOCONS failed to realize that Iraq was a secular state a buffer against radical fundementalism under Saddam rule. They thought they could liberate Iraq and set up shop in their oil fields and sell Starbucks coffee on their streets.

 

 

However, the failed to realize the fundemental tenets of Islam. FIGHT THE INFIDELS. They are few 'terrorists' in Iraq. They are fighting nationalists, fundementalists and the Iraqi army in civilians clothes.

 

 

As for the NEOCONS and AIPAC boys have come to realize is in Vanity Fair.

 

 

Neo Culpa

 

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2006/12/neocons200612

 

 

"According to Perle, who left the Defense Policy Board in 2004, this unfolding catastrophe has a central cause: devastating dysfunction within the administration of President George W. Bush."

 

 

As for "But I would appreciate it if you would stop ignoring that there are also good people AND BAD PEOPLE in the Democratic party..."

 

 

Who says I ignore the Democratic party... I may have many internet 'indenties' and fight oppression and corruption on all fronts... I may have played a part in uncovering of financial scandals in the banking and brokerage industries... But you'll never know :) And who cares what you want? lol :)

 

 

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Re: Prediction

 

 

Regarding "I predict the Replubicans will win many races that pundits believed was lost. The mysterious wins will lead to many court cases delaying the outcome by months."

 

 

Surprisingly few mysterious wins... But lots of close races....

 

 

It's seem all the action will be in the Senate Races of Montana and Virginia for recounts and court cases delaying the outcome by weeks if not months.

 

 

GOP Control of Senate at risk

 

 

All eyes on Montana, Virginia with recounts likely

 

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2006/2006-11-07-election-main_x.htm

 

 

By USA TODAY staff

 

 

Democrats took over the House in Tuesday's midterm elections but Senate control might take weeks to decide, in an election shaped by voter discontent with President Bush and the direction of the Iraq war.

 

 

The fate of the Senate rested on a few thousand votes in two states, but the House is not in doubt, with Democrats winning more than 230 seats and a House majority early today.

 

 

In Montana, Democratic challenger John Tester, the state Senate president, led incumbent Conrad Burns by around 1,700 votes with 99% of the precincts counted.

 

 

In the Virginia race, incumbent Republican Sen. George Allen Jr. trailed Democratic challenger Jim Webb by a few thousand votes out of more than 2.2 million cast.

 

 

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Democrats win the House and the Senate! WoW! :) Maybe there is hope for Democracy....

 

 

TheCigMan

 

 

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Disclaimer: The Shadow Government had nothing to do with this stellar victory over the Republicans.

 

 

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Re: Defense Contract Scrutiny Under Democrats

 

 

Is this what has RainmanTime in a bad mood today?

 

 

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061108/ap_on_bi_ge/eln_election_business

 

 

Dem scrutiny of drugs, defense expected By BRAD FOSS, AP Business Writer

 

 

28 minutes ago

 

 

WASHINGTON - By boosting the power of Democrats in Congress, voters likely set in motion legislative efforts to lower the price of pharmaceuticals and rein in military spending.

 

 

With many political analysts viewing the Democrats win of the House as evidence of waning support for the war in Iraq, some Wall Street analysts are bracing for the possibility that military spending may gradually slow.

 

 

Even if Republicans manage to maintain control of the Senate, Arizona Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), a frequent critic of free-spending defense programs, is expected to take over as chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee after Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R.-Va., steps down because of term limits. McCain has a history of being tough on the defense industry, forcing the Air Force to change the terms of a Lockheed cargo plane contract and helping to uncover wrongdoing by Boeing and a Pentagon official in a separate Air Force tanker contract.

 

 

Lockheed Chief Financial Officer Chris Kubasik tried to ease jitters recently, saying the company has "worked well with both parties" and that its business, mostly long-term big ticket contracts, can withstand periodic political changes in Washington.

 

 

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I also hear that will be new legislation called the... :)

 

 

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Federal Employee Internet Loafer Act of 2007

 

 

Whereas as all federal employees or government contractors are banned from surfing the internet also known as the world wide web during work hours. Failure to comply will be a terminatable offense. Only intelligence analysts from federal agencies for reasons of national security are exempt.

 

 

It's still being worked on... :)

 

 

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TheCigMan

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