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Re: A Sobering Consideration About Information

 

Damn Olly,

 

Thanks a lot for that post. You've clarified a lot and I fully agree with your explanations. It seems to me that you really understand the Information dimension and how we are learning to manipulate it.

 

If you get a certain section of society conditioned to take the desired response by the controlled release of information then you could end up minipulating an entire population potentially.

 

Yes. And would it be possible for the entire world to see how this could be going on with respect to "both sides" of our current cultural polarization? For my own part, I can see it happening on both "sides" of the current worldwide polarizations. Each of us, as individuals, is left to determine which "stories of information" we believe will lead to the best possible world, in our future.

For example - to get a timetravel enthusiasts resonating to the the fear of civil war. You'd need to work on an information level that best suits they're likely personality (personally i would class the soul as more directly connected to the personality - not the spirit). Many are going to accept a story of a time traveller because they desire it. If that time traveller is spouting about Civil war, as they accept the time traveller - they start to resonate with the fear response to the information. As more people discuss it - it start to snowball. Especially if you back it up with suedo-science

 

Totally. Information is certainly used to persuade and convince a body of people.

Someone, who likes to read about aliens and can have a submissive personality might be led to suspect that a rogue planet is about to kill us all. Throw in a couple of high profile delusional channelers and you have a potentially another few thousand roped in. Resonating at the same level as the timetravel enthusiasts, but under a different context.

 

Wait a minute... does any of us know someone who seems to fit this personality? :)

parents can be led to believe that Computer games and music are going to turn there kids into gun touting hoddies. And thus Censorship is more readily accepted (i.e. spread the information and get a desired response, If you want you intention forced on someone else - you just need to give them the information to bring them round to your point of view).

 

Again, I think this is right on the mark. This week, South Park pushed the boundaries again. The produceers of this socially significant show WANTED to show an image of Mohammad. And their network, Comedy Central, backed out. This says a lot about our current-Time state-of-world culture, no matter which "side of the argument" you are on!

If you really knew your metaphyics and had the right amount of influence, you could engineer what ever reality you wanted people to buy into.

 

This is exactly a point I am trying to get across. And I am really glad that at least Olly (and several others I know on this board) totally understand this point. I do NOT claim to have "all" the answers about science, or how things work. But I think the ideas I have put forth about Force/Energy/Information scientific relationships are deserving of further investigation. There is a lot there when you model the relationships properly.

Of course conspiriacy theorists are the easiest faction of society to achieve this with. They spread everything like a disease to all others. Some people will probably laugh that this reply though. And i would say that they are only qualified to so if they know the implicaitons of the original information this thread.

 

I agree, Olly. And I don't laugh at this at all.

reality is bought about by intention and this is a response to information.

 

A basic Truth of Science and our human ability to Create our Future.

 

Could we all agree to CREATE a better world in our common Future? If we all agree to do this, how can it not come to pass?

 

RMT

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Re: A Sobering Consideration About Information

 

Again, I think this is right on the mark. This week, South Park pushed the boundaries again. The produceers of this socially significant show WANTED to show an image of Mohammad. And their network, Comedy Central, backed out. This says a lot about our current-Time state-of-world culture, no matter which "side of the argument" you are on!

 

 

 

A travesty!! South park is by far the most intelligent comedy of our time (far more political then the overated show we call the Simpsons or any other sitcom)!! I would have looked forward to that episode. The thing with Matt stone and Trey Parker, Is that underneath all their episodes of SP, they have a profound and important moral that they always round up at the end.

 

I'd say about 90% of their audience miss it though. I bet that underneath all that seemingly offensive humour (to all the conservatives out there), i'm sure they would have had something very intelligent to say.

 

I certainly don't envy the network bosses that had to make the decision, though...

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Re: A Sobering Consideration About Information

 

Olly,

A travesty!! South park is by far the most intelligent comedy of our time (far more political then the overated show we call the Simpsons or any other sitcom)!! I would have looked forward to that episode.

 

If only you knew!!! The beauty of these latest episodes is that BOTH the Simpsons AND the Family Guy cartoons play a major part in the plot which involves the "sin" of showing an image of Mohammad. In fact the names of these new episodes are "Cartoon Wars". The mainstay of the plot is that it is the show Family Guy that wants to depict Mohammad, and the entire world of South Park is all up-in-arms about how it will rain terror down on their world. And the solution of the idiotic people of Southpark is to literally "bury our heads in the sand" to show the terrorists that we won't look at the image of Mohammad. Bart Simpson also shows up and plays a part in Cartman's ultimate scheme to get Family Guy pulled off the air. It is a hoot...I am sure you will eventually see this episode, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

 

The thing with Matt stone and Trey Parker, Is that underneath all their episodes of SP, they have a profound and important moral that they always round up at the end.

 

Amen. All you really need to do is review the dialog from all of their shows, especially at the end when either Stan or Kyle give their monologue of "here is what I learned in this episode" speech. It is so blatantly obvious in every episode... however, people who "don't get it" can only focus on the "crudeness" of the episodic material that they never see and understand the importance of that little monologue, and how much it really does teach us about the silliness of being human.

 

I'd say about 90% of their audience miss it though. I bet that underneath all that seemingly offensive humour (to all the conservatives out there), i'm sure they would have had something very intelligent to say.

 

Pretty much true, although I might argue the 90% number just a bit. I'd agree that probably 80% of the audience doesn't "get the message", but I think more than 10% of the US population is smart enough to see the message. 20% might be pushing it, but I like to have an optimistic view of my fellow citizens! :)

 

And the social commentary of Matt, Trey, and their Southpark denizens is certainly evident, and hard to argue with once you look beyond their potty-mouth, adolescent humor. It all serves a purpose to be so outrageous because it truly AMPLIFIES the importance of the moral message that each episode carries with it.

 

All of us in the world (Muslims included) need to be able to make fun of ourselves, laugh at ourselves, and not take ourselves so G-d D--m seriously! Would you agree?

 

RMT

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On Death & Taxes

 

Historical note: (holy smeacle! I'm starting to sound like Creedo!)

 

On this specific Date in Linear Time (April 15th, 2006), this specific TTI thread transitioned thru 1040 total views.

 

US tax return filing deadline is: April 15th

US tax return form number is: 1040

 

This is not a coincidence, and I offer it as undeniable proof that aliens have been planning our Timeline all along!

O_o O_o O_o O_o O_o

Clearly, this means that aliens are behind the IRS, and all this tax money we pay has been going to their bottom line!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

 

;)

RMT

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The Power Of INTENTION

 

Some might call the MESSAGE that Dr. Wayne Dyer describes as "New Age".

 

Yet what he describes is fully in line with the Science of INTENTION->Information->Energy->Force/Momentum->MANIFESTATION that I have outlined in this thread.

 

What I want to know is: Can anyone falsify Wayne's message, or my science? If so, great, let me know. If not, then is it reasonable to agree that INTENTION is the "thing" that drives Creation in our universe?

 

N/I RMT

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World War IV - The War of INTENTION

 

A colleague of mine just pointed me to the following web page and its related article. The author and his references pretty much talk about the same thing I discuss in this thread, and also describe how our advancement of knowledge and technology has always paralleled the methods and tactics we use for waging war. While the author does not use the exact same words for the progression from Force/Momentum to Energy to Information, he does often discuss that the way we will "win the war" on terrorism is by having a keen understanding of the enemy's INTENTION.

 

A long article, but worth a read if you want to understand how even warfare is going to have to become highly non-linear.

 

http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/07/1866019

 

RMT

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Re: World War IV - The War of INTENTION

 

Hey Rainman,

 

Thanks for the link on warfare. I had a big laugh over it--not because it is funny but for its irony. It is totally relevant and (ahem) timely. Not surprisingly, not only is it evident that the locals in Lebanon perceive the the warfare as having been WON by Hezbollah--it is also quite evident HERE that there was an apparent victory by Hezbollah that will be HUGE unless our perceptions can change in regards to what the enemy's intentions are. As the article mentions, it was brilliant as well as diabolical on the part of the "resistance"--and may have been the intention of the enemy all along. This was my intuitive perception--even as the war was progressing.

 

Unfortunately, it seems that the direction that our own country is heading is directly in the opposite direction--especially on the corporate front. In the effort to streamline and cut costs by huge mergers and micromanagement, the common "soldier" has been lost in the shuffle and are quickly becoming "Pavlovian dogs" for a more efficient "salivation" response. It amazes me that the "sheeple" are so quickly falling in line. In my case, I am "bristling" with an intensity that will most certainly result in "abandonment of my post". It is not that I am more aware of this process than others because many others are noticing this definite shift. Few have the necessary "tools" to see that this will eventually be harmful to their security. This may be the very reason why we (the US) are losing the ability to compete and to even keep up with the growing gap with the rest of the world regarding Education. It is ironic that we are becoming a third-world country in our ability to recognize that our infrastructure is literally falling down around us.

 

This new "warfare" is also quite applicable in the "war of love". There is a crisis in mainline religion and it is because they have "separated themselves from the world" for so long that they do not know how to communicate with that world any more. The greatest difficulty I had when "converting" from my worldly viewpoints to the spritual ones was maintaining the worldly view as I was incorporating the "spiritual language" that is inherent in the human condition. Just as a "Northerner" picks up the local dialect of a "Southerner" just by being around them--without even realizing it until he returns home after a length of time--we tend to gravitate to the groups we associate with. I was never very succesful at "getting close" to them. I simply had spent too many years on the "street" to fully become "one of them". When I worked with "juvenile deliquents", I more closely associated with them than I did with the "professionals" that were "socally adjusted". As a result, my success was phenomenal in solving problems, but sadly lacking within the "professional" structure.

 

Ironically, the same problem exists here. Again, it is a linear/non-linear problem. Combining the "street" with "science" and "spirit" with the "art" of modern warfare is exactly the way we need to go in order to "win" world war IV. It is "ironic" that the book of Micah speaks of "learning war no more" and turning swords into plowshares. It is not just a possibility out of other possibilities. It is as certain as tomorrow. We truly do "learn" war. That article shows that we do--even if it is not evident to us that we are doing it. Unfortunately (again), there IS a Manhattan Project going on that is being HIGHLY successful at winning the hearts and minds of people--especially youth--and it began at a little known place called Willow Creek. I believe that these incredibly brilliant (and diabolical) methods will eventually unite this country (and world) into those institutions that will bring about the one-world government, one-world religion, and one-world economic system that is almost totally in place now. It is so subtle (just as the methods of the new warfare must be) that we will not realize it completely until it is too late and it will lead to national, and therefore, world ruin. John Titor could NEVER have foreseen that. Interesting times are upon us, and that article was very relevant. The battle for the heart and mind is taking a shape that makes me very cognizant of the need to go to the SOURCE for the proper response to it. The NATURAL man wants to react to it in violent ways--if only in the heart and mind (and I believe this is its INTENT.) Just imagine it. Balancing the trained intent to KILL with maximum ability with the trained ability to psychoanalyze the innocent and win their heart and mind. Almost a contradiction in terms--but the form of the warfare of World War IV. And guess what? World War IV is not a war that is going on THERE. It has many fronts HERE too. Interesting times we live in huh? Thanks again for the article.

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Re: World War IV - The War of INTENTION

 

Wow Zerub!

 

So many key thoughts in your response here... and so many of them are in your subtle choice of words that triggered precise meanings in my mind. Yet I am sure there are readers who have not learned/applied the "non-linear" principle who cannot understand what you are referring to. It can be so plain to the "initiated" and yet the "uninitiated" can read and not see (comprehend) the points you are making.

 

And all of these things you allude to (some of which I will attempt to address directly) are directly related to the topic of this thread, and the general topic of understanding TIME to achieve a sort of eventual "Time Travel" (but, of course, not in the romantic sense).

 

And I must also point out that this also applies to the host of "time travelers from our future" hoaxers we have had to deal with here on this forum. It has been explained before that by encouraging this form of FRAUD (and that is exactly what it is), this has a direct impact on people's global INTENTION that Creates our future. "That which you think about and focus on is that which you draw to you."

 

In light of the analysis in the subject article on the evolution of warfare, I still refuse to give up the thought that the whole John Titor Experiment could have been a pre-9/11 terrorist Info Psy Op. It is still in the realm of distinct possibilities given what we are talking about in this thread.

Again, it is a linear/non-linear problem.

 

Oh yeah it is!

And guess what? World War IV is not a war that is going on THERE. It has many fronts HERE too.

 

Oh yes it has! And when you say "HERE" I know you do mean RIGHT HERE. And this is exactly what I am referring to above.

 

When we review the technologies of war and how they evolved right up to today, it is not difficult to see where we are right here, right now:

 

1) FORCE as the "war amplifier". Ancient hand-to-hand combat. One man applies a FORCE to another man.

2) MOMENTUM as the "war amplifier". Later we add MOMENTUM to combat by realizing we can take masses of different size and when moving at different velocities into our enemies we can do great damage and carnage.

3) ENERGY as the "war amplifier". After Newton quantifies the science of Forces and Momentums is when war apparatus transcends it and transforms into a greater capability. We learn about the application of chemical and mechanical Energy (in terms of projectile velocity "v-squared" Energy increase, and the rate of chemical reactions to create explosions with chemical gunpowders). The ENERGY AGE OF WAR ended with the ultimate in Energy application to a military target: The atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

4) INFORMATION as the "war amplifier". As the article points out, it was after The Bomb that we adopted Information Technology for the warfigther which we see as the highest-tech aspect of the US military today. Network integration and net-centric operations. And also as pointed out in the article, our Information Revolution is what allowed us to win the Cold War (what some have rightfully called WW III).

 

And that leads us to today, doesn't it? We are at the next evolution of technology and revolution in warfare. And indeed, many swords are being beaten into plowshares, in a very real way. Computers are everywhere in military ops, and what they have permitted is a HUGE reduction in the amount of energetic weapons that have to be expended to achieve a military result. This has also been goodness because it has reduced the overall deaths due to "carpet bombing" such as in WW II. Now... the fact that the Sunni and Shia are the ones who continually wish to blow each other up is THEIR issue, not ours. Muslims killing each other because they disagree with each other about how to deal with us "infidels". I think that world religion is the one that needs the most healing right now, but that is not to say the mainstream forces of Judaism and Christianity don't also need some changing! ;)

 

But clearly if those who have followed this thread generally accept my ordering and hierarchy that leads from Information to INTENTION... then there is no doubt that a major shift in how we view the entire universe is the only thing that can be ahead of us. People can ignore it and deny it, but scientific analysis can show it... as I have tried to do in this thread.

Interesting times we live in huh?

 

Oh yeah, brother! And I am reveling in and totally enjoying every single minute that I participate in Creation... as I know do you.

 

I commend you and all who are like us who have taken responsibility for our INTENTIONS of Creation! :yum:

 

RMT

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Well today appears to be the right TIME to resurrect this thread, and this specific post:

 

A Sobering Consideration About Information

 

I think I've been pretty much up-beat in this thread, explaining Nature's structure of Force, Energy, Information, and Intention. But now, I think it is time to point out that ALL technologies can be used for both "good" and "evil" (as we seem to use these judgements a lot in our lives). Our own human history makes this fact evident:

 

1) Witness how mankind has learned to use FORCE against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group. FORCE application is what lead to conventional weapons.

2) Witness how mankind has learned to use ENERGY against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group. ENERGY application is what gave us many weapons of mass destruction (WMD) with the central WMD Energy weapon being atomic & thermonuclear bombs.

3) Would anyone like to discuss the means and ways that INFORMATION is already being used against each other, in a manner to impose one group's WILL (INTENTION) upon another group?

4) Would we wish to discuss the fact that there is a much more destructive, "weaponized equivalent" of the Energy-based thermonuclear weapon in the realm of INFORMATION? Can you imagine just how much more powerful this is over and above thermonuclear weapons?

5) When you think of using a weapon (ANY weapon) in terms of how it can be used for BOTH "good" and "evil" (depending on how and for what reasons you CHOOSE to use that weapon), can we understand how the enemies of freedom in the world can most effectively use Information as a weapon against the free world?

 

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What will happen if the side of "evil" in our current worldwide conflicts becomes the first to use equivalent Information weapons?

 

And today we hear about a massive hacking of US FED GOV information....most likely by China:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked-personnel-management/index.html

 

Is this the information equivalent of the atomic bomb that transitioned us from the Age of Energy into the Age of Information? Or will there be a yet larger event?

 

RMT

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Have we no set intentions so our will not be free afterall?

Is each expression of free will always subject to that truth moves faster than the speed of light allowing questions & answers/intention & free will to crystallise at the same-time each at their own whenabouts, that we have what we need before we need it?

Does as universe expands history do also & everything change beneath & including our own noses? Even our will, according to new intentions we perceive we've known all our lives now, according to what truth had in store for us last?

The ancient intention to be human could be radically replaced with a intention to've been a superior race rather if one had been conceived :) *smiles at them from this version of earth, their forgotten past*, & so has creation a clean slate in store for us to as fit information spontaneously generate back to, to study homosapien, call them "cousin" & wonder again who our missing links are?

 

If truth/fit information moves faster than speed of light unbound by time & space, but seeing time in forward motion & not being able to prove creation is our will not free for we see no reason not to be ill information?

 

Is it not to lie to question, & if one is is it not a question at all, no matter how real it seems? Are we self-sufficient as a timetravel species, & though many of us be a corruption, a non-question, will we who be honest & curious having true intention & true free will be suspicious of & not deterred by any perhaps sound-sounding nonsense?

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Hi Folks!!!

It has been awhile.  A long while!  I hope all my friends here are still doing well.  Has anyone seen our friend Darby lately?  I miss his intelligent inputs!  I have been in touch with some of my friends here "on the other side."  They know who they are.

RMT

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